I joined the discussion with a suggestion that all women read Pope John Paul II’s letter, MULIERIS DIGNITATEM and reminded them that both faithful Catholic women and faithful Catholic men are expected to offer humble obedience to the Magesterium. Most comments supported this sentiment. However, one was obviously not pleased.
To Catholic Mom
You are still brainwashed by the clergy. Please don't take us back to the dark ages. Woman should and eventually will have a more active role than cleaning the church. Woman make up most of the church and not many of us want to be rated as second class citizens in organized religion.
Well, that is interesting. Women barely made up twenty percent of my college and medical school classes. I entered the Air Force where I was even more of a minority. I was constantly doing battle against subtle and not-so-subtle sexual harassment and discrimination. I never hesitated to challenge authority in the name of fairness. So it is almost comical to think of myself characterized as a meek female brainwashed by a powerful male clergy.
More importantly, even a cursory reading of Mulieris Dignitatem will provide evidence of the high esteem in which the Church hold women. Women can be lectors, cantors, parish committee members, Diocesan office holders, as well as consecrated religious. They simply cannot be priests. Yet, somehow, those rabid for the ordination of women see this as relegation to second-class status.
This tells me they really do not understand the call to the priesthood. This is a call to humble subservience, not a call to power. I sometimes sense the same attitude among those who are angry that our parish does not use girls as altar servers. They want to see their daughter up there “performing” in front of the congregation. They do not recognize being an Altar Server as an act of service. There are many avenues of service open to the girls. Yet some parents are unhappy because these avenues are not so public.
Men and women are of unquestioningly equal dignity. They are not identical. Our roles in salvation history differ. God made us complementary to each other. The Church values us both equally. As individuals and especially as women, we must do the same.
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Can a woman really be a "lector" - my understanding is that this minor ministry, along with Acolyte, is reserved to men alone. Paul VI's restriction of these ministries to men has not been lifted to my knowledge. Women can be "readers" however, and most men who read at Mass are also "readers" since institution to the ministry of "lector" in the US is usually only done with seminarians.
The terms "reader" and "lector" are used rather interchangably, even when referring to formally installed ministers. I suppose the term "reader" might be more appropriate for the untonsured, but if the Latin word for both is the same, I'm not sure how much difference it makes.
Bishop DiLorenzo made two mistakes soon after taking office. One mistake was exiling Fr Smith who gave him good advice, advice Bishop DiLorenzo would not use. The second mistake was similar when he let go another key member of his staff: he went to Rome.
Now all he has left are Sullivanista holdovers.
He is dogged by the sisterhood so he chooses to hind behind some woman liturgist. Now this survey. He thinks its clever because the survey will help him get rid of mysoginist accusations. It wont because you cannot please those who want to be pristesses with a survey.
Now the last of our problems: the dioscean newspaper editor. He has served the previous Bishop and he is still serving him.
We need a man in the Bishop job.
Nice job, Denise. Yes, it's about serving, not about prestige or power. Do they not understand the importance of humility in the spiritual life?
I too am suspicious when the word "spirituality" is used and the words "faith" and "Jesus" are conspicuously missing.
What is humorous to me is the plea not to take women back to the dark ages. So an age where women are objectified more than ever is the age of enlightenment? In the age where pregnancy is treated as a commodity to be disposed of by choice is the advanced view? As Dr. Laura would say, "Puhhlease."
David,
I disagree.
Using the term Lector, an instituted ministry reserved to men, for Readers - a liturgical function open to all (though early on Pope Paul VI reserved all reading at Mass to men) - is at least as incorrect as using Minster of the Eucharist for an EMHC.
I see no reason to use terms incorrectly - it seems to serve the culture of ignorance about the Church that contributes to Catholic confusion.
Or should we call women "lectors" a "lectress"?
Intertesting, because I've never felt that my only contribution was cleaning the church.
I am a missonary, the first in line to evangelize my children. I give new life to the Church, in a way only a woman, uniquely, can.
Just as men can never give birth, women can never consecrate a Host. That's just the way God made us. To say it is "unfair" and "old-fashioned" supposes that fair means exactly equal treatment, which is one place where socialism went so, so wrong.
I have a special needs child, and if I treated him the exact way I treated his sister, Social Services would probably prosecute me for neglect. If I treated his sister the way I treated him, with his extra therapy, special diet, etc., I would be a neurotic, smothering mom raising the proprietor of Bates Motel.
Anybody who ever tried to cut a cookie into thirds knows that equality, as measured strictly with quantitative analysis, is overrated.
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